Posts by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

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In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name

by slimboyfat in

i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.

he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).

he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.

Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

Ah, yes. Vindication - a masterpiece by a misogynistic alcoholic. Rutherford had this crackpot theory that Mother's Day stemmed from an elaborate conspiracy by Satan to deflect "special honor and worship" away from Jehovah and toward women. Apparently, Satan's first orders of business on being ousted from heaven in 1914 was to influence world leaders to tell their mommies they loved them on a special day. It's genius! What a demonic way for Satan to get ready for his smackdown with God at Armaggedon. If only Satan had known he'd have over a hundred years (and counting) to toy with, he wouldn't have been in such a rush to pull out this trump card.

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Do JWs wonder why never converted someone that knows the Bible?

by Counter-Watchtower in

my experience with jws that came to my house started me on a journey of learning the truth about "jehovah's organization".

it didnt take long for me to stump them with bible questions that show what jw org teaches is not biblically accurate.

i hope when i lay on them 6 pages of their history (which will later be a counter-watchtower magazine) the light will come on when they read about pyramids and see photos.

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@Counter-Watchtower That's really admirable, but please know that the love and friendship you have with these Jehovah's Witnesses is very conditional. They are associating with you because they believe they have a chance of recruiting you. The second you reveal your intentions to wake them up to their doctrinal errors, or even just simply say you're no longer interested in studying the Bible with them but would love to just hang out/catch up regularly, they will make an exit from your life as quickly as they entered it. Jehovah's Witnesses are very strict about their associates, and if you're "worldly" - or worse - "opposed", they will be steering clear of you. If this does happen, please do not take it personally or feel jilted by your new friends. This is how they have been conditioned to behave toward fellow human beings... even if it is their own flesh and blood.

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What The Bible Says About War (Awake 2017 Issue No. 5)

by Divergent in

jw
friends

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no5-2017-october/what-bible-says-about-war/.

the bible's viewpoint .

war.

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@Counter-Watchtower When it comes to conscription, alternative service and abiding with governmental authorities, the WT leadership has at times flip-flopped on the matter, and downright spoken out of both sides of its mouth for different JW branches across the globe, resulting in the unnecessary torture, incarceration and deaths of Witnesses simply following their religious leaders' orders. Please watch from 12:00 of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqYUCV4FHI4

Does JW Org Have Goons Like Scientology?

by Counter-Watchtower in

i guess this would be a good question to ask.

does jw org have goons they send after ppl to threaten them?

or to inflict violence on?

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@Counter-Watchtower, yes. A couple of instances caught on camera. Toward the end of both videos is where the person who asked/said the wrong thing was unceremoniously shown the door:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xc8vNfy46o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqqt0Y1peUU

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Forget what they say, most JWs do not believe the end is near...

by drew sagan in

i was a baptized jw for 7 years.

during that time i repeatedly vocalized my belief that "the end is near.

" however, what did this cost me?

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@Alfred Something's definitely wrong with that software. Most of us know when to quit when something is stuck loading for more than a day. Unfortunately, most Witnesses are prepared to stare at their frozen computer screen for the rest of their lives.

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blood

by Akid48 in

my family hasnt signed the blood paper but still say no blood (well the adults do).i overheard a elder taking to my aunt about the blood papaers she needs to fill out.but he also aid she needs a make a small little letter saying i wont take blood.some times i wish i never heard that talk.. even tho i knew i would have to stand up for me being hable to have life.now i just zone out and think will i die for something thats a lie?.

im going to try not to think about it for a little my head hurts after this..

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I would just throw away/destroy your document so that it can't be used to support your parents' no blood stance if you're ever in a critical condition. I hope that will help if push does come to shove and you're in hospital one day.

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happy people.

by zeb in

jw
friends

i have opened thesite to relate this part of my day.. yes the jw are such happy people.

yeah right... my wife has come home after an extended sunday meeting in a foul mood.

to be around her is like feeling your way through barbed wire.

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@Counter-Watchtower This thread from three months ago will give you some first-hand insight on the front Jehovah's Witnesses are programmed to put up in order to recruit new members and maintain a happy facade among one another during meeting gatherings. Once they get home and the door clicks shut, the reality is much darker, unfortunately: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5197852651290624/jehovahs-people-happy-people

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meetings 18+ only

by Akid48 in

the title was a joke but i going to tell a story that happend to me a a meeting.. there was a brother giving a talk now from my other post there are like 4 teens and 10 or more kids 5 to 8.now the brother just said now most of you kids will be getting asked have you lost your virginity.now all the teens are 13 like more or a year older you havent had sex but they dont care.. but the young kids most likey just asked there mom and dad when they got home ''mom dad whats my virginity''?.

just my god man what the fuck where you thinking when writeing that..

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@Counter-Watchtower I think the children of these families will tell you a different story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxtP28gXZKQ

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meetings 18+ only

by Akid48 in

the title was a joke but i going to tell a story that happend to me a a meeting.. there was a brother giving a talk now from my other post there are like 4 teens and 10 or more kids 5 to 8.now the brother just said now most of you kids will be getting asked have you lost your virginity.now all the teens are 13 like more or a year older you havent had sex but they dont care.. but the young kids most likey just asked there mom and dad when they got home ''mom dad whats my virginity''?.

just my god man what the fuck where you thinking when writeing that..

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@Akid48 Unfortunately, my father is the old school personification of the Society. A "contemporary" (if you will) of Frederick Franz and was present at one of his conventions. Growing up, every quote began with: "The Society says...". There was no middle ground.

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Do JWs wonder why never converted someone that knows the Bible?

by Counter-Watchtower in

my experience with jws that came to my house started me on a journey of learning the truth about "jehovah's organization".

it didnt take long for me to stump them with bible questions that show what jw org teaches is not biblically accurate.

i hope when i lay on them 6 pages of their history (which will later be a counter-watchtower magazine) the light will come on when they read about pyramids and see photos.

Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

I aim to please, @Vanderhoven7.